Missing?

[HMARK]

That is right brah, it is a website about surfing, and all that surfing has to offer. It is not just a spot for the spouting of negative vibes on the loss of another human being.

Every mans demise diminishes my own exsistence - someone way smarter than myself once said.

The site itself is not the place for such bullshit. Why should anyone give a shit about anyone else? Just wrap yourself up in your own ignorant cocoon, pleasing yourself with your own needs. Fuck the other guy. Fuck all.

We all need to exhibit some concern for those around us, and the loss here is amplified by a morons ignorance. Surfing, surfers, as a whole cannot continue to hold the sport so dear to many very long, if we base our stoke on selfcenteredness.

How much death and carnage does it take for anyone to get it? Mebbe your world is ripe with beauty and joy, brah, but I think you really, REALLY need to look at what surfing is about. A persons child is missing, they did not just leave, not show up for work, they are as of now, GONE. Gone is pretty final in this world, my friend, and the finality of it is something we should all give a shit about.

Or we are all just fucking inhuman.

[Guest again]

...BTW, you still need a heart.

[Guest]

looks like this surfer gave a shit for all

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2004/Apr/08/ln/ln07a.html

[Bud]

http://starbulletin.com/2004/04/09/news/story6.html


FL MORRIS / FMORRIS@STARBULLETIN.COM
At Honolulu police headquarters in downtown yesterday, Neil Damaran, an HPD evidence specialist, displayed the surfboard belonging to missing surfer Courtney Marcher. The board was recovered by fishermen off Kaena Point.

Shark expert looks
at surfer’s leash
An expert cannot tell what
caused the cuts on the board
leash of the missing woman

By Rod Antone
rantone@starbulletin.com

Honolulu police called in a state shark expert yesterday to look at the surfboard of a missing North Shore woman.

Police said, however, that the expert could not determine what caused serrated cuts on the leash of the board. Investigators identified the 6-foot white surfboard as that of Courtney Marcher, a 22-year-old woman who had been last seen surfing at Velzyland on Sunday morning.

"We had a shark expert from the Department of Land & Natural Resources examine it initially," investigator Phil Camero said. "At this time it's inconclusive. ... He can't tell as far as what could cause these markings."

Camero said two fishermen recovered the board Wednesday morning, about three miles from Kaena Point. Though the leash was still attached to the surfboard, it was only about 2 1/2 feet long.

The rest of the leash, which would have attached to Marcher's ankle, was missing, and what was left appeared to have been either cut or pulled apart by some force.

"We have no evidence of foul play, and the investigation does not lead in that direction," he said. "We do know that she was in the water, and there's a strong possibility that she did receive some trouble in the water."


FL MORRIS / FMORRIS@STARBULLETIN.COM
A view of the severed end of the surf leash still attached to the board.

Coast Guard officials said the distance between Velzyland and Kaena Point where the surfboard was found is about 6 1/2 miles. According to lifeguards and Honolulu Fire Department personnel, Camero said, it is possible that the board could have drifted there since Sunday.

Marcher had last been seen by friends surfing at Velzyland between 6:30 and 8:30 Sunday morning. Though police said witnesses saw Marcher paddling toward shore, no one actually saw her get out of the water.

Camero said Marcher has a history of epilepsy but has not had any recent seizures. Marcher's roommates said if she had gotten out of the water, it would have only been a five-minute walk to their Huelo Street home.

"She was actually supposed to have dinner with us at 8 p.m. Sunday," said roommate Vince Bechet. "When she didn't arrive, that's when we started getting a bit worried."

Camero said Honolulu police will do further tests to analyze Marcher's surfboard.

In the meantime, however, he said police do not intend to continue their search for her unless they discover new evidence that prompts them to do so.

Bechet said Marcher had just moved into the Huelo Street home on April 1 after responding to an ad posted outside the Pupukea Foodland.

According to her mother, Patricia, she had moved to Hawaii from Florida two months ago.

"She is gregarious and has a lot of fun," said Patricia Marcher. "She's very open.

"She's a beautiful, wonderful person. I would love to know if anyone has seen her at all."

[Sokiak]

Do those markings on the leash going up to the end look weird to anybody else? It looks like it was cut...but by what? Reef, Knife, Shark Teeth?
That just doesn't look right.
The mother thinks that the board was set up as a diversion and the girl is really abducted. God bless her and her family.

Hopefully she isn't dead, but if she is, atleast she got some sweet rights at V-Land before her passing.

[Kelly7873]

I've never seen a leash break like that. It looks most likely that it was rubbing on the reef. I would think a shark or a knife would be a clean cut. Of course maybe her abductor was trying to mislead the police. I just don't think the average crack head is that clever. I know her Mom is hoping for the best but I makes me feel better if she died by natural causes, either drowned or shark.

[surfer9joe]

I think it defintely looks like shark teeth, look how uniform and clean those cuts are. That could maybe happen just rubbing against those teeth, like if it was in a loop and got pulled out of the mouth from the front.

[HMARK]

I've never seen a leash break like that. It looks most likely that it was rubbing on the reef. I would think a shark or a knife would be a clean cut. Of course maybe her abductor was trying to mislead the police. I just don't think the average crack head is that clever. I know her Mom is hoping for the best but I makes me feel better if she died by natural causes, either drowned or shark.

Agreed. I doubt a batu fiend could have the brain cells to plan that far ahead. Criminy, I hope the seizure factor really has a lot to do with this. When a person has a seizure they can become so exhausted that they conceiveably could be unable to keep themselves afloat, much less swim. A good point is that the fisherman did find the board and that is some sort of evidence to go by. Was Vland really that uncrowded that Sun. that no one would have noticed her at all? If she did have a seizure, or even if she was /could have been abducted? Seems like someone could have been on the shore checking the surf or the lineup.

Hope for the best.

[Malekos]

11/19/1991... Victim swept into sea by a large wave while fishing from the rocky coastline at 4:30 P.M. Victim's son went for help shortly thereafter when it became apparent that surf conditions were too rough for his father to swim ashore. When last seen, victim was treading water signaling the son to go for assistance. Help arrived about 30 minutes later, but no sign of the victim could be found. Victim's shorts and shirt were recovered from ocean bottom the following morning by fire rescue divers. Both garments had large portions missing on left side. Note: Victim was reported to be a strong swimmer in good physical condition.

Want to hear about an attack at Ehukai? They found only the waist and legs.

A warning to be on one's guard... E ao pau po'o, pau hi'u ia mano.

Pua ka wiliwili nanahu ka mano; pua ka wahine u'i nanahu ke kanawai.

'nuff said.

[Kelly7873]

Was Vland really that uncrowded that Sun. that no one would have noticed her at all? If she did have a seizure, or even if she was /could have been abducted? Seems like someone could have been on the shore checking the surf or the lineup.

Hope for the best.

It is hard to fathom that she could get into trouble then just float by the surfers in the water without anyone noticing but what about Mark Foo. He wipe out with dozens of other surfers out and maybe hundreds on the cliff watching and no one noticed his board floating. And then there's Donnie Solomon at Waimea. Plenty of surfers out and even a lifeguard on a jetski in the water but it wasn't till someone (Ken Bradshaw?) spotted his board from the beach that the lifeguards went to him and then it was too late.

[Guest]

Police and fire rescue crews were searching the area mauka of Wailua, Kauai, for an 80-year-old man reported missing Thursday afternoon.
Police said the Kalaheo man had gone to the area with a friend to retrieve his vehicle, which was stuck in mud.

The two became separated, and the friend reported the victim missing at about 4:30 p.m. Police and fire crews searched on the ground and from the air until 8 p.m. Thursday night and then resumed the search yesterday morning.

Police said the Kauai Search Dog Association was helping in the search


IF ANY OF YA ARE GOING TO KAUAI, PLEASE BE ON THE LOOKOUT.

[LGREANZ]

Look at all the happening s around the surf this past week.

-Parents are swept away at Lumahi.
-Girls gets lost at V land.
-Vietnam vet get killed by shark in Maui.

The ocean isn't always all fun and games.

The gods must be angry.

[Pukui]

E
Part. marking imperative/intentive mood. See e (verb) ai, e (verb) ana, Gram. 5.4. (PCP e.)
ao
1. nvi. Light, day, daylight, dawn; to dawn, grow light; enlightened; to regain consciousness.
pau
1. vs. Finished, ended, through, terminated, completed, over, all done; final, finishing; entirely, completely, very much; after; all, to have all; to be completely possessed, consumed, destroyed.
poʻo
1. n. Head, summit, head or director of an organization, executive, principal; end, as of a rope, leaf, pole, cane, kōnane board; head of a penis or boil; headline, heading, title; father
hiʻu
1. n. Hind part or tail section of a fish, considered less delicious than the head or front section. See saying, pau 1. Hiʻu kahi, a single fishtail; limited knowledge
ia
1. pronoun. He, she, it.
mano manō
n. Shark (general name). Many kinds are listed below. Reef sharks may attain a length of 1.5 m. Fig., a passionate lover. Sharks were ʻaumākua to some; they were said to have never harmed and frequently to protect those who fed and petted them. Cf. ʻai ā manō, hula manō, niuhi, pua 1. Manō iʻa, ordinary shark. Manō hae, fierce shark or fighter. Manō kanaka, shark thought to be born of a human mother and sired by a shark god, or by a deified person whose spirit possesses a shark or turns into a shark. Manō ihu waʻa, shark traditionally said to rest its head on the outrigger of a canoe, beloved by fishermen and fed; lit., bow shark. Pau pele, pau manō, consumed by volcanic fire, consumed by shark [may I die if I don't keep my pledge]. hoʻo.manō To behave as a shark; to eat ravenously; to pursue women ardently. (PNP mangoo.)

1. num. Many, numerous, four thousand; thick. Cf. kini, lau, lehu, manoa, Gram. 10.3. He lau ka puʻu, he mano ka ihona (chant), many hills, numerous descents [of troubles]. hoʻo.mano To increase; to do repeatedly or persistently. Koi hoʻomano, to keep asking and insisting. Ka hahai e hoʻomano ai (For. 4:47), following persistently. (PPN mano.)
2. vt. To throw, as stone; to aim at and hit. Rare.
pua
1. nvi. Flower, blossom, tassel and stem of sugar cane; to bloom, blossom. Pāpale pua, pāpale pua kō, hat made of stem of sugar cane. Pua ka wiliwili, nanahu ka manō, the wiliwili tree blooms, the sharks bite [a blossoming girl is desired by males; sharks are believed to mate when the wiliwili blooms and to be especially ferocious]. E hauʻoli hoʻi ka wao akua, ā e pua mai hoi (Isa. 35.1), the wilderness shall be glad and blossom too. (PPN pua).
2. vi. To issue, appear, come forth, emerge, said especially of smoke, wind, speech, and colors, hence to smoke, blow, speak, shine. Cf. pua ahi, pua ehu, pua ʻehu, pua ʻena, pua hina, puana, puka. Pua ka uahi, the smoke rises. E pua ana ka makani, the wind rises. Kapu ka nū, ka ʻī, i ka pua o ka leo, forbidden to groan, to speak by sound of voice. A ʻike pua iki aku nō ʻoe iā Kaʻula, and you barely see Kaʻula. hoʻo.pua Caus/sim.. Mai hoʻopua ʻoe, do not say a word. (PCP pua).
3. nvi. Progeny, child, descendant, offspring; young, spawn, fry, as of āholehole, ʻamaʻama, ʻanae, awa, kāhala, ʻōʻio, uouoa, to produce progeny or young. Pua aliʻi, descendants of chiefs, royal progeny. Pua ʻūhini, young ʻūhini, a grasshopper. Kana mau pua, his descendants. Pua iʻa, baby fish, fish fry. Lau kō pua, netting drive for young fish. Ua pau, ua hala lākou, a koe nō nā pua (song), they are gone, passed away, and the descendants remain.
4. n. Arrow, dart, sometimes made from flower stalks of sugar cane.
ka
1. Definite singular article replaced by ke before words beginning with a, e, o, and k, and before some words beginning with the glottal stop and p (ka ʻaka, the laugh, ke ʻala, the fragrance; ka pā, the yard, ke pā, the dish). In documents in the State Archives dating from the 1850s, ke was used also before words beginning with other letters. Ka is sometimes used before nouns that are obviously plural and instead of possessives (see ex., mae). Ka is usually translated ‘the’ except that it is not translated before English mass nouns and status titles, as ka hanohano, glory, and ke Akua, God. (Gram. 10.2.) (PNP te.)
wili.wili
1. Redup. of wili 1. Pā wiliwili, blowing of wind in all directions. hoʻo.wili.wili Redup. of hoʻowili; to swirl, circle. Hoʻowiliwili ka ua i ka ʻino, the rain swirls in the storm. Hoʻowiliwili ka iʻa, the fish swim in circles (PPN wiliwili.)
uʻi
nvs. Youthful, youthfully stalwart, heroic, handsome, pretty, beautiful, vigorous; youth; youthful vigor and beauty; youthful hero, beautiful young woman. Ka wā uʻi, youth; age of youthful vigor, grace, and beauty; age of greatest physical beauty. Nā poʻe uʻi, young people, as in the late teens and early twenties. hoʻo.uʻi To beautify, make beautiful.

nahu
1. nvt. To bite; to have nanahu
Redup. of nahu.
a tendency to bite, as a dog; to sting, as beating rain; pain, as of stomachache or of childbirth; bite. hoʻo.nahu To bite, cause a stomachache; to pretend to bite.
kā.nā.wai
nvs. Law, code, rule, statute, act, regulation, ordinance, decree, edict; legal; to obey a law; to be prohibited; to learn from experience. Fig., ti leaves, as used in religious ceremonies as a plant respected by spirits. Since some early laws concerned water (wai) rights, some have suggested that the word kānāwai is derived from wai, water; this seems doubtful in view of the many ancient edicts of gods that have no relation to water (also cf. wai 4 and derivatives). Perhaps the most famous kānāwai is the kānāwai kaiʻokia promulgated by the god Kāne after the flood of Kahinaliʻi, promising that ever afterwards the sea would be separated (ʻokia) from the land (i.e., not encroach on the land). Persons swore oaths by this and other kānāwai. The kānāwai of Kū was that no one might lean backwards (kīkiʻi) during ceremonies; that of Ku-kaua-kahi that no one might bend forward (kūpou); that of Kānehekili, that no one might whisper (hāwanawana) during ceremonies; that of Ka-hō-aliʻi, that the white kāʻupu bird (kāʻupu kea) must be used as his symbol during the makahiki. See below and Kam. 64:13–17 and note 9. ʻAha kau kānāwai, legislature, law-making body. Kānāwai (hoʻopaʻi) kalaima (karaima), penal code, criminal code. Buke kānāwai hoʻokahi, sole statute law. Kānāwai e pololei ai ka hoʻokolokolo ʻana, code of procedure; lit., law which is correct in holding court. Kānāwai o Pelekania (Beritania) i kākau puke ʻole ʻia, British common law; lit., law of Britain not written in a book. Mamuli o ke kānāwai, according to law; legal. Hoʻolilo i mea pono ma ke kānāwai, to legalize, make lawful. Hoʻolohe ʻole i ke kānāwai, lawless. Ua kānāwai au i ka hele malaila, I have learned not to go there. E hele pū me ke kānāwai, to go legally (with ti leaves). Nā Kānāwai he ʻUmi, the Ten Commandments. Kū ʻole i ke kānāwai, illegal, contrary to law. hoʻo.kā.nā.wai To impose a law, especially to vow not to associate with certain persons or places until certain conditions are fulfilled. Hoʻokānāwai akula ia i kona wahi i hele ai, ʻaʻole e hele hou; hoʻokānāwai akula i nā makamaka, he made a vow not to go again to that place; he made a rule not to associate with the friends.


http://ulukau.olelo.hawaii.edu/english.php

[Sokiak]

Malekos,
Your stories hold no weight. In the first story you give no location.
The second "story" you give no time/date/exact location.
Both those stories could have been drownings followed by shark attacks or boating accidents followed by shark attacks.

And there has never been a shark attack at Ehukai.

"A warning to be on one's guard" ...um no shit, we are in the ocean.

Then you state some Hawaiian that is utterly wrong. Don't you know that Hawaiian Translated to English or vise versa is always backwards?
You're just like the haoles that named "Lanikai" cause they thought it was "Heavenly Ocean" when "Lanikai" isn't even a Hawaiian word.

And none of this excuses your heartless comments about the missing girl.

[HMARK]

E ao pau po'o, pau hi'u ia mano.

Pua ka wiliwili nanahu ka mano; pua ka wahine u'i nanahu ke kanawai.

I think the true inflection needs to presented by the author.

You have asked persons to grow balls, and that they been served "bitch", but with the beautiful Hawaiian language, it is up to the speaker to let the receiver understand what is really meant in the speech.

Looks like it was given the option for open interpretation by Pukui.

I think we are all ears. Got 2 ears vs. 1 mouth. Should be doing twice as much listening as talking, I think.

Sorry for fucking up the quote thingy...